tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post7767710210695591885..comments2023-05-04T04:20:10.423-04:00Comments on Dave's Theater Blog: Acting 101: The use of yelling on stageDave Thttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01554650648344826824noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-58160456682714697242007-10-22T12:20:00.000-04:002007-10-22T12:20:00.000-04:00Holy crap batman! I go out of town for three days...Holy crap batman! I go out of town for three days and look what I missed. Man, the HR conference was soooo boring compared to this! <BR/><BR/>Mary, all I can say is welcome aboard baby...we are a passionate bunch are we not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-62098273912825840022007-10-19T21:10:00.000-04:002007-10-19T21:10:00.000-04:00I just ordered my shirt. Can hardly wait to wear ...I just ordered my shirt. Can hardly wait to wear it to an opening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-82103054871688904202007-10-19T13:40:00.000-04:002007-10-19T13:40:00.000-04:00Shhhhhhh...let's move on from this. It just keeps ...Shhhhhhh...let's move on from this. It just keeps going around in circles anyway. I say this even though I have been thoroughly entertained by all the comments written. Maybe I'm not taking it seriously enough. But, of all the serious things going on right now...this just isn't high on the list for me. But, Dave, wow, at least people are talking...alot.<BR/>So a big YAY for free speech and all that jazz!<BR/><BR/>I can't wait to order my t-shirt!<BR/><BR/>Love, and peace to all. (Corny, maybe, but heartfelt.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-25224292850364858102007-10-19T12:05:00.000-04:002007-10-19T12:05:00.000-04:00Oh, incidentally, Mary was probably turned onto th...Oh, incidentally, Mary was probably turned onto this subject by <I>Richard II</I>, which has, in the interest of full disclosure, quite a lot of medieval honor-related histrionics. You got a problem with it? Talk to the playwright.<BR/><BR/>;-)Andrew Hammhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714127938846605400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-12814575009879148882007-10-19T12:02:00.000-04:002007-10-19T12:02:00.000-04:00Anonymous said... Mary, please learn the meaning o...<I>Anonymous said... <BR/><BR/>Mary, please learn the meaning of generic vs. genetic. You can do better.</I><BR/><BR/>Now, see, that's exactly what Scott's talking about. That's not constructive criticism. Constructive criticism would be the same text in email format. Posting the above, anonymously, is a way to get a dig in, intentionally calling attention to an error from the protective shield of anonymity. I'm with the Wich-man. That's just cowardly, and it's beneath the level of almost every Richmond theatre artist I know. In fact, just about every "anonymous" posting uses language designed to hurt or embarrass, language which I feel certain would be substantially different with a real name on it.<BR/><BR/>I sometimes post on a great website called the Home Theater Forum. I've been a member for almost a decade, and my brother Phil was an administrator for a time. One of the requirements for membership (which is free) is that your screen name must be some variation of your real name. If you use a fake name, your account wuill be denied or deleted. As a result, the HTF has by far the most civil and intelligent internet forum discussion on any topic that I have ever participated in.<BR/><BR/>If you're not willing to put your name with what you're going to say, you probably shouldn't be saying it. If you're concerned about your reputation and career, rephrase it so you don't have anything to worry about.<BR/><BR/>And for the record, Scott and I actually agree about a lot of things; it's just not very interesting to blog about the stuff you agree on. That would make it, I don't know, a love fest of some kind.<BR/><BR/>Finally, I'd like to point out that "T" is right next to "R" on the keyboard, making "genetic" a likely typo for "generic" that spell-check would miss entirely.<BR/><BR/>And go freakin Sox.Andrew Hammhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714127938846605400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-38832452097657188512007-10-19T10:42:00.000-04:002007-10-19T10:42:00.000-04:00Mary, please learn the meaning of generic vs. gene...Mary, please learn the meaning of generic vs. genetic. You can do better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-15167114265696943322007-10-19T00:19:00.000-04:002007-10-19T00:19:00.000-04:00I hear you, brother Wichmann, but also think you'r...I hear you, brother Wichmann, but also think you're being a bit disingenuous by equating your relationship with Andrew and a Richmond theater person's relationship with a theater reviewer. Mary and I have the means to have some -- though how much in actuality is debateable -- influence on an actor's, producer's or director's professional life here. We can play a significant role in determining whether a story gets written or a show even gets reviewed, at least for Style. You may be comfortable enough with your relationship with me and Mary and your place in the Richmond theater galaxy to say what you will and let the chips fall where they may. Others might not be.<BR/><BR/>Of course, now I feel that I'm arguing a point so finely that I'm contradicting my own feelings. It would have been my hope that everyone who was riled up could have posted non-anonymously. But I don't feel that anyone was being "infantile." I would have gone with "professionally cautious" and perhaps they could have just kept their thoughts to themselves. But if everyone willing to post just agreed with Mary, we'd be in annoying love fest territory again, wouldn't we?<BR/><BR/>With that, I'm all for declaring this particular horse dog food. Though if you want to get the final word in, Scott, go for it. <BR/><BR/>It looks like the Tribe is going down tonight. The Sox live to see another day... Sweet dreams, Scottie and all you other theater peeps.Dave Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554650648344826824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-37684315502106149482007-10-19T00:05:00.000-04:002007-10-19T00:05:00.000-04:00Nobody is gonna read down this far, and I agree th...Nobody is gonna read down this far, and I agree that we should drop this whole argument...BUT, not without me putting in my 2 cents...first off, spell check it merely helpful for us readers to understand what the blogger is trying to communicate. Second, I think that yelling is something that should build and come naturally. Actors just need to think of how they would react naturally in a situation. If "yelling" is something that fits the character description and heightens the tension in a scene, then I say "yell!". I understand Mary's wish in wanting to communicate this little tidbit of advice with us, however it was written in sort of an offensive way...I think that the content bugged us not so much as the way it was written. Well, hopefully everybody has forgotten about this by now...but I know the blogger's intentions were pure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-49538993094253114752007-10-18T20:44:00.000-04:002007-10-18T20:44:00.000-04:00One love...Can we call this a dead horse now?Foriz...One love...<BR/><BR/>Can we call this a dead horse now?<BR/><BR/>Forizzle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-13374579160807464242007-10-18T19:39:00.000-04:002007-10-18T19:39:00.000-04:00Preach on, Scottie! Amen, Brother Love!Preach on, Scottie! Amen, Brother Love!Robinitafacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15114957337047124636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-62743037213019750632007-10-18T19:17:00.000-04:002007-10-18T19:17:00.000-04:00"Rest assured, you do know some of these people, S..."Rest assured, you do know some of these people, Scott, and maybe they’re not superheroes, but they aren’t bad people either. If they weren’t comfortable posting with a name attached, should they have kept their cowardly mouths shut?"<BR/><BR/>Dave, I never said they were bad people. In fact, the shots lobbed by these people behind the shield of anonymity belie the real-world class they no doubt display at work, home and the community on a daily basis. If these 'anonymous' folks (Is it 'folks??' How many?? Meh.) are so concerned about the horribly presumptuous and offensive content of Mary's posting, why post anonymous shots, and then e-mail you with their concerns?? Why not simply e-mail you with their concerns?? It's infantile. <BR/><BR/>What I'm REALLY annoyed with has less to do with what Mary said or the content of the anonymous posts-- It's the simple fact that people won't stand by what they say. Using the anonymity blanket gives you a license to be more nasty and spew more vitriol than you normally would, while avoiding the threat of any challenges to what you've just expressed. It's comfy.<BR/><BR/>That's textbook cowardice, wouldn't you say?? <BR/><BR/>I'm sorry, my mummenschantz-esque theatre silhouettes, but this is where we disagree-- I have very little respect for that type of behavior.<BR/><BR/>I'll give an example of personal relationships, full disclosure, professionalism, and divergent opinions: Me and Andrew Hamm. We argue about everything, all the time. He has posted thoughts on everything from politics to actor training, and we get in a verbal sparring match at least twice a month. Sometimes we get so angry with one another that we both scream and holler at the top of our lungs. But I deeply respect both him and his work. I'll say it again: I disagree with a lot of people about a wide range of things, (Dave, you & I have different views on China which we have discussed at length) but I'm confident enough in both myself and the quality of the work I do to speak my mind clearly, even if I end up being wrong. <BR/><BR/>Isn't that what we should ask of ourselves?? To speak truthfully from the heart?? Oh, I forgot, from the other thread-- Idealism is sooo impractical. We only see folks with that kind of courage in... Oh, whaddya call 'em?? Oh yeah.<BR/><BR/>PLAYS.Scott Wichmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698019570231228339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-75006815641071984912007-10-18T19:06:00.000-04:002007-10-18T19:06:00.000-04:00THAT SHIRT IS COMPLETELY HYSTERICAL!!!!THAT SHIRT IS COMPLETELY HYSTERICAL!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-32155146969463462152007-10-18T17:01:00.000-04:002007-10-18T17:01:00.000-04:00I wish there was a way to require commentors to es...I wish there was a way to require commentors to establish a consistent identity here. I don't use blogger, but it seems like that's not an option. That would avoid the Anonymous 2.3 vs. Anonymous 9.0 confusion. And lead to some interesting gossip. ("I've figured out who Winky Binky Boo is! It has to be. . . shhh!") I don't always use my actual name on the internet for various reasons, but I stay consistent where I do participate. Here, where the subject matter is theatre in my hometown, I'm certainly going to use my real name. Wait. Ok. My real stage name. It is an interesting discussion, isn't it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-2503472117880598992007-10-18T16:55:00.000-04:002007-10-18T16:55:00.000-04:00The thing is, Dave, no is going to let you "Have i...The thing is, Dave, no is going to let you "Have it" because, despite your relationships with theatre professionals in Richmond, you still seem to write with a level of objectivity.<BR/><BR/>If you were to write a review that simply stated, "I think it sucked," I doubt anyone would take you seriously. You attempt to include what works for you as an audience member - and what doesn't. You also resist the temptation to suggest who might have had one too many of their drink of choice (which you probably know) at the cast party the night before.<BR/><BR/>Anonymity: Why is it that people in this business take part in telling such wonderful stories about overcoming adversity, damn the man, etc - but we so scared to attach our own name to our own opinion for fear of retribution?Robinitafacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15114957337047124636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-69955887848145219382007-10-18T16:36:00.000-04:002007-10-18T16:36:00.000-04:00Wow – I clearly need to quit my full-time gig so I...Wow – I clearly need to quit my full-time gig so I can blog 9 to 5; this is where the action is!<BR/><BR/>I find it interesting that both “anon” and Scott have adopted Robert’s “Scald through Sarcasm” strategy. Makes for entertaining reading. I won’t try to derail your anti-Anonymity train, Scott, because it seems like it might take a truckload of C4 to do so at this point. But I will add these points into the stew:<BR/><BR/>--> I received separate emails from three of the anonymous comment-ers and I can understand their desire to post anonymously. While including their identity might have added interesting twists to the discussion, I respect their concern about possible personal and professional repercussions. Rest assured, you do know some of these people, Scott, and maybe they’re not superheroes, but they aren’t bad people either. If they weren’t comfortable posting with a name attached, should they have kept their cowardly mouths shut? Maybe, but if they had, there would have been less interesting stuff to talk about.<BR/><BR/>--> Identity on the internet is a squirrelly issue anyway. Just because I post a comment as “Kevin Kline” doesn’t mean I ever made out with Jamie Lee Curtis (a boy can dream…). In this “new media age,” it’s harder to judge something based solely on who is supposed to have written it. In my opinion, that makes the actual content of what is said more important. And, with that in mind, I believe there were some interesting, entertaining and valid points expressed by the “anons” out there in cyberspace. Would I have preferred that they post with a name attached? Yes. Do I hold them in contempt solely because they chose to remain anonymous. No.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I’m sensitive to this point because, as some of you know, I used to write my reviews under a pseudonym, which was essentially a form of anonymity. There were valid professional and personal reasons for me to do so (though, if I were to list them, perhaps they would be shot down…)<BR/><BR/>I can almost feel the blow-back building as I write this. Let me have it, y’all.Dave Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554650648344826824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-255832268425036342007-10-18T16:18:00.000-04:002007-10-18T16:18:00.000-04:00wow, anonymous, carrying around all that anger mus...wow, anonymous, carrying around all that anger must be a heavy load to bear. i'm so sorry that you take yourself so seriously. truly. i hope that you can find happiness at whatever new blog you happen upon - i have a number of links to blogs of people that CREATE theatre as you've said, and more than happy to share them. but keep in mind that wherever you go in the blogosphere, it will still be one person's opinion, and until you can learn to not take things so personally, my guess is that you will find frustration at every twist and turn.<BR/><BR/>flying butress, you made me pee in my prego pants. i love your perma tongue in cheek manner. that is my lovefest to you. <BR/><BR/>scottie, you also totes rocked my day. more wet pants there, and a giant smile.Le Synge Bleuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16797650521371643399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-28238980691848052412007-10-18T16:12:00.000-04:002007-10-18T16:12:00.000-04:00They are real because I just ordered one. Cut and ...They are real because I just ordered one. Cut and paste the link and go from there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-58956403266270158592007-10-18T15:38:00.000-04:002007-10-18T15:38:00.000-04:00Scott, I'm calling the Tony committee this afterno...Scott, I'm calling the Tony committee this afternoon and asking them to create a new category for you - "Best Monologue Created from Posting On A Blog", for which you surely will win! :)<BR/><BR/>I want to know how to obtain one of those t-shirts. Are they for real, or just a mock-up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-31973166312584150292007-10-18T15:12:00.000-04:002007-10-18T15:12:00.000-04:00Hey anonymous, I never said I was 'So much more en...Hey anonymous, I never said I was 'So much more enlightened' than anyone here. What I'm saying is, if you have a problem, attach your name to your comments. You'll find that you're likely to be more honest and truthful, not less. And I'm sorry to expand on this, but it's funny as hell to see ANOTHER 'Anonymous' say: <BR/><BR/>"yeah, my thoughts exactly, anonymous, you hit the nail on the head. Let's get the heck out of here. These people have no business discussing anything about anything that I'm involved in!! I'm outraged!! I hope they don't talk about 'Ghostwriting 101' next, 'cuz I'll be so mad...anyways, I'll see you at the theatre."<BR/><BR/>Now How the hell are you people gonna meet up at the theatre?? How do you signal one another?? What do you guys look like?? I'm imagining the generic outline of men and women with the floating head that we see on street signs and public restrooms. Am I close?? Do you have theatre conversations that look like the two facial silhouetttes putting words together on THE ELECTRIC COMPANY?? All hushed tones and two-syllables?? If so, then We've GOTTA hang out,'cuz I love that show!!<BR/><BR/>...And what do you do, normally, if you don't like something?? Do you put on a halloween costume in order to properly express your opinion so no one comments on you in the next show you do?? WANH. Stop acting like you just got slapped with a white glove and now something has been tarnished, besmirched or taken away from you. It was one woman's opinion. She attached her name to her comments. You didn't. Conclusion: You're lame. <BR/><BR/>And you know something else?? I've disagreed publicly with plenty of friends, colleagues, critics and others on subjects ranging from politics to sports to theatre-- and I always do so by name, because I stand behind the things I say, evin iff I spill thm wrung. <BR/> <BR/>If I disagreed with Mary I'd have signed my name, no matter what show I was going to do next that she was going to review blah blah blah. <BR/><BR/>Funny side-note: Most recently, I got into it with Boston sports columnist Dan Shaughnessy over his pre-emptive statement that the Sox were 'Done.' I got an email back from him this morning!! (And, we're not done, btw.)<BR/><BR/>The other cool thing whic you must have discovered about writing 'Aonymously,' MR/Mrs./ms. Anon, is that you can be extra nasty without fear of being called out personally for it. The funny thing is, anonymous, we probably know each other and have (or will) worked together and really like each other. I would hate for our anonymous relationship to be anonymously tarnished over all this anonymous-ness. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps when the dust clears, we can go out on a date, just you and me, Anonymous. We'll listen to my vinyl copy of the Beatles 'Nowhere man', then we'll get tickets to see the unknown comic or something. It'll be great. We won't sit together--to preserve your anonymity-- But we'll be working on putting our internet-chat based relationship back on track.<BR/><BR/>Btw, if you're a super-hero, then you're probably under a lot of stress, In which case I totally understand everything you wrote... But then again, lots of superheroes come from dysfunctional families-- Oh shoot, touchy subject, right, I forgot. We don't want to go down that road again. <BR/><BR/>You're right, Anonymous, this IS a love fest. It's me loving the opportunity to pick apart your tepid, nitpicky whining. Y'all come back now y'hear??<BR/><BR/>...See you at the theatre!!Scott Wichmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698019570231228339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-87694719898078776302007-10-18T13:59:00.000-04:002007-10-18T13:59:00.000-04:00I just wet my pants.I just wet my pants.Robinitafacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15114957337047124636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-9854977037408305022007-10-18T13:53:00.000-04:002007-10-18T13:53:00.000-04:00"Heal through Humor"...that's my motto. (it also i..."Heal through Humor"...that's my motto. (it also includes "Scald with Sarcasm"...but I'll save that one for a less turbulent discussion threadFlying Buttresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06052587697634783060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-67655519159933305162007-10-18T13:39:00.000-04:002007-10-18T13:39:00.000-04:00Flying Buttress - I am laughing my Dysfunctional a...Flying Buttress - I am laughing my Dysfunctional ass off. I am ordering this right now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-85566325443940529782007-10-18T13:38:00.000-04:002007-10-18T13:38:00.000-04:00Robert, the back of the shirt is awesome!Robert, the back of the shirt is awesome!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-63114102966101111872007-10-18T13:30:00.000-04:002007-10-18T13:30:00.000-04:00To join this conversation I challenged myself to f...To join this conversation I challenged myself to find humor in it that somehow supports both sides of the discussion.<BR/><BR/>Here is my offering<BR/>http://www.zazzle.com/i_yell_on_stage_because_i_m_dysfunctional_shirt-235619577387005812<BR/><BR/>Be sure to look at both sides of the product.Flying Buttresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06052587697634783060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29175306.post-6561059581603482472007-10-18T13:24:00.000-04:002007-10-18T13:24:00.000-04:00I am very amused at Jennifer Franks temptation to ...I am very amused at Jennifer Franks temptation to submit in all caps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com